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		<title>By: Alex Wetmore</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/563/comment-page-1#comment-242915</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wetmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2013 17:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mitered the top tube to fit the head tube nicely, that is necessary to get a good and safe joint.  It is a lot easier to do this with a milling machine, but I did this cycle truck before owning a milling machine.  I&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;m sure that I did the miters by hand using files.  I probably lost about 1cm of top tube length.

You can see the mitered top tube here:
http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Framebuilding/Cycle-Truck/i-KJffsKQ/A

Rory&#039;&#039;s donor bike had a lug, so that makes it easy to see how little top tube was lost:
http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Framebuilding/Rorys-Fuji-Turdhauler-SL/i-8XmWDNP/A
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mitered the top tube to fit the head tube nicely, that is necessary to get a good and safe joint.  It is a lot easier to do this with a milling machine, but I did this cycle truck before owning a milling machine.  I&#8221;&#8221;m sure that I did the miters by hand using files.  I probably lost about 1cm of top tube length.</p>
<p>You can see the mitered top tube here:<br />
<a href="http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Framebuilding/Cycle-Truck/i-KJffsKQ/A" rel="nofollow">http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Framebuilding/Cycle-Truck/i-KJffsKQ/A</a></p>
<p>Rory&#8217;&#8217;s donor bike had a lug, so that makes it easy to see how little top tube was lost:<br />
<a href="http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Framebuilding/Rorys-Fuji-Turdhauler-SL/i-8XmWDNP/A" rel="nofollow">http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Framebuilding/Rorys-Fuji-Turdhauler-SL/i-8XmWDNP/A</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff M</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/563/comment-page-1#comment-242419</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alex,

Love the Cycle Truck. 

I have an idea for something similar but I have no experience so I intend to start out the same way as you have, find an old steel Mt bike, cut the HT/DT off and go from there. When you cut the HT off, did you just use a hacksaw or grinder and go straight thru (vertical) or did you give a curve to it? I&#039;&#039;m afraid of making the TT too short, but I may just be over thinking things. 

Anyway thanks for the inspiration.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex,</p>
<p>Love the Cycle Truck. </p>
<p>I have an idea for something similar but I have no experience so I intend to start out the same way as you have, find an old steel Mt bike, cut the HT/DT off and go from there. When you cut the HT off, did you just use a hacksaw or grinder and go straight thru (vertical) or did you give a curve to it? I&#8221;m afraid of making the TT too short, but I may just be over thinking things. </p>
<p>Anyway thanks for the inspiration.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Wetmore</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/563/comment-page-1#comment-225185</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wetmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2013 15:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the first one I used 73.5 degree HTA and enough rake to get 40mm of trail.  That one handles well, but the wheel isn&#039;&#039;t far enough under the load.

On the second one I used 72 degree HTA and enough rake to get 30mm of trail.  I prefer the 40mm of trail, the 30mm of trail is a little fast. 

I helped Soma with the front end geometry for the Tradesman and think they ended up going with 72 degree HTA, 40mm of trail.  That is an easy bike to get a test ride on.

Use the correct A-C to get clear your desired tire.

The cargo tube is 1.75&quot; and 0.058&quot; wall thickness.  A rack that is about 20&quot; wide and 16&quot; deep seems to work quite well.  The original rack that I made was 20&quot; deep and that allows the weight to get too far ahead of the front wheel.

Sorry about the late reply, I was on vacation and missed your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the first one I used 73.5 degree HTA and enough rake to get 40mm of trail.  That one handles well, but the wheel isn&#8221;t far enough under the load.</p>
<p>On the second one I used 72 degree HTA and enough rake to get 30mm of trail.  I prefer the 40mm of trail, the 30mm of trail is a little fast. </p>
<p>I helped Soma with the front end geometry for the Tradesman and think they ended up going with 72 degree HTA, 40mm of trail.  That is an easy bike to get a test ride on.</p>
<p>Use the correct A-C to get clear your desired tire.</p>
<p>The cargo tube is 1.75&#8243; and 0.058&#8243; wall thickness.  A rack that is about 20&#8243; wide and 16&#8243; deep seems to work quite well.  The original rack that I made was 20&#8243; deep and that allows the weight to get too far ahead of the front wheel.</p>
<p>Sorry about the late reply, I was on vacation and missed your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: miguel</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/563/comment-page-1#comment-176361</link>
		<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi alex, 
thank you for the work. 
can you tell me what HTA, fork A-C, and fork rake worked the best with this bike? how far does the support bar lead out in front of the bike? is the support bar a standard 35mm tube?

thanks, 
mpp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi alex,<br />
thank you for the work.<br />
can you tell me what HTA, fork A-C, and fork rake worked the best with this bike? how far does the support bar lead out in front of the bike? is the support bar a standard 35mm tube?</p>
<p>thanks,<br />
mpp</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Wetmore: The Framebuilding Technical Wiz Who Loves to Ride Rough &#124; The Bicycle Story</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/563/comment-page-1#comment-33501</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wetmore: The Framebuilding Technical Wiz Who Loves to Ride Rough &#124; The Bicycle Story</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 19:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: schroepfer</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/563/comment-page-1#comment-4395</link>
		<dc:creator>schroepfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I have you make one for me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I have you make one for me?</p>
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		<title>By: AlexWetmore</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/563/comment-page-1#comment-4394</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexWetmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Dan, I don&#039;&#039;t know the color.  If you go to Seattle Powder Coat (and happen to be in Seattle) it is the red in the upper left of their chart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Dan, I don&#8221;t know the color.  If you go to Seattle Powder Coat (and happen to be in Seattle) it is the red in the upper left of their chart.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan S.</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/563/comment-page-1#comment-4393</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex -- do you know the RAL code for the red color?  I&#039;&#039;m getting a frame powdered this winter and am looking for a good red.  thanks, Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex &#8212; do you know the RAL code for the red color?  I&#8221;m getting a frame powdered this winter and am looking for a good red.  thanks, Dan</p>
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		<title>By: BrianB</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/563/comment-page-1#comment-4392</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;&#039;m glad the CT got posted on Bike Commuters (http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/01/another-cool-front-loader/) because (1) it showed the bike I saw fleetingly as I was out biking a couple weeks back and (2) introduced me to this blog. Am now a subscriber via RSS. :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8221;m glad the CT got posted on Bike Commuters (<a href="http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/01/another-cool-front-loader/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/01/another-cool-front-loader/</a>) because (1) it showed the bike I saw fleetingly as I was out biking a couple weeks back and (2) introduced me to this blog. Am now a subscriber via RSS. <img src='http://alexwetmore.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: panji nushantara</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/563/comment-page-1#comment-4391</link>
		<dc:creator>panji nushantara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with this bike there&#039;&#039;s no excuse not to bike even with load of cargo. beautifully done.

It&#039;&#039;s not a truck it&#039;&#039;s a freighter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with this bike there&#8217;&#8217;s no excuse not to bike even with load of cargo. beautifully done.</p>
<p>It&#8217;&#8217;s not a truck it&#8217;&#8217;s a freighter.</p>
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