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	<title>Comments on: rebuilding bikelist.org archives</title>
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		<title>By: AlexWetmore</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/526/comment-page-1#comment-4190</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexWetmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vo -- Nothing will be deleted and I&#039;&#039;m going to great extents to make sure that old message URLs will work with the new archives.

Alex -- I&#039;&#039;ve had bad luck in the past with Google overindexing my site and killing my available bandwidth.  We&#039;&#039;ll see how they do with the new system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vo &#8212; Nothing will be deleted and I&#8221;m going to great extents to make sure that old message URLs will work with the new archives.</p>
<p>Alex &#8212; I&#8221;ve had bad luck in the past with Google overindexing my site and killing my available bandwidth.  We&#8221;ll see how they do with the new system.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Yip</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/526/comment-page-1#comment-4189</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Yip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alex, Thanks for running the email lists and archives.
I use the search function often, and improvements are always welcome.

In addition to your custom indexing system, you might try to make the archives easily indexable by Google and Yahoo, etc.  Their indexers are highly refined for speed and language processing and can be good for augmenting the site&#039;&#039;s custom built-in search funtions.



- Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex, Thanks for running the email lists and archives.<br />
I use the search function often, and improvements are always welcome.</p>
<p>In addition to your custom indexing system, you might try to make the archives easily indexable by Google and Yahoo, etc.  Their indexers are highly refined for speed and language processing and can be good for augmenting the site&#8217;&#8217;s custom built-in search funtions.</p>
<p>- Alex</p>
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		<title>By: Vo Tran</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/526/comment-page-1#comment-4188</link>
		<dc:creator>Vo Tran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for hosting these lists. i actually like the current archive design and use them alot. but whatever you do please don&#039;&#039;t loose or delete any of the great content. it is a great resource and i&#039;&#039;m sure i&#039;&#039;m not the only one who uses it frequently.  Please keep it all and don&#039;&#039;t delete any!!!!!!  thanks Vo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for hosting these lists. i actually like the current archive design and use them alot. but whatever you do please don&#8221;t loose or delete any of the great content. it is a great resource and i&#8221;m sure i&#8221;m not the only one who uses it frequently.  Please keep it all and don&#8221;t delete any!!!!!!  thanks Vo</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Loudon</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/526/comment-page-1#comment-4187</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Loudon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay, it lives!

Body text on message tree view needs some padding. The text is jammed against the edge of the viewport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay, it lives!</p>
<p>Body text on message tree view needs some padding. The text is jammed against the edge of the viewport.</p>
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		<title>By: AlexWetmore</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/526/comment-page-1#comment-4186</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexWetmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to put phrases in quotes when using boolean search, that is why it isn&#039;&#039;t the default.  At some point I&#039;&#039;ll have a more helpful syntax page come up when you do something illegal.

Try searching for:
rohloff and &quot;karate monkey&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to put phrases in quotes when using boolean search, that is why it isn&#8221;t the default.  At some point I&#8221;ll have a more helpful syntax page come up when you do something illegal.</p>
<p>Try searching for:<br />
rohloff and &#8220;karate monkey&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: christian</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/526/comment-page-1#comment-4185</link>
		<dc:creator>christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, this looks great and will be really useful.  I got an error when trying a boolean search:


Server Error in &#039;&#039;/beta&#039;&#039; Application.
Syntax error near &#039;&#039;monkey&#039;&#039; in the full-text search condition &#039;&#039;rohloff AND karate monkey&#039;&#039;.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.Data.SqlClient.SqlException: Syntax error near &#039;&#039;monkey&#039;&#039; in the full-text search condition &#039;&#039;rohloff AND karate monkey&#039;&#039;.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:

[SqlException (0x80131904): Syntax error near &#039;&#039;monkey&#039;&#039; in the full-text search condition &#039;&#039;rohloff AND karate monkey&#039;&#039;.]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, this looks great and will be really useful.  I got an error when trying a boolean search:</p>
<p>Server Error in &#8221;/beta&#8221; Application.<br />
Syntax error near &#8221;monkey&#8221; in the full-text search condition &#8221;rohloff AND karate monkey&#8221;.<br />
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.</p>
<p>Exception Details: System.Data.SqlClient.SqlException: Syntax error near &#8221;monkey&#8221; in the full-text search condition &#8221;rohloff AND karate monkey&#8221;.</p>
<p>Source Error:</p>
<p>An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.</p>
<p>Stack Trace:</p>
<p>[SqlException (0x80131904): Syntax error near ''monkey'' in the full-text search condition ''rohloff AND karate monkey''.]<br />
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		<title>By: AlexWetmore</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/526/comment-page-1#comment-4184</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexWetmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pulling a random search result isn&#039;&#039;t too hard.

I might add a feature where it shows a random message on the homepage at some point -- click on it to read the rest of the thread.  I&#039;&#039;ll have to think about how that will look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pulling a random search result isn&#8221;t too hard.</p>
<p>I might add a feature where it shows a random message on the homepage at some point &#8212; click on it to read the rest of the thread.  I&#8221;ll have to think about how that will look.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrcurial</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/526/comment-page-1#comment-4183</link>
		<dc:creator>Myrcurial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again for all of your work in hosting the lists...

Do you have the capability in the search to pull a random result from the return set.  Would be interesting to pull random quotes from some of the more verbose posters to the list. Kinda like the &quot;I&#039;&#039;m feeling lucky&quot; button on google :)

J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again for all of your work in hosting the lists&#8230;</p>
<p>Do you have the capability in the search to pull a random result from the return set.  Would be interesting to pull random quotes from some of the more verbose posters to the list. Kinda like the &#8220;I&#8221;m feeling lucky&#8221; button on google <img src='http://alexwetmore.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>J</p>
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